Totally for S&G I’ve decided to post the whole year-and-a-half log of Facebook messages… the good, the bad, and the ugly…
August 13, 2010 Mandie Ok I am going to try to get my point across, I just text you and you pretty much said you don’t want to talk. I don’t understand what went wrong tonight… I was honest and told you I have a friend staying I wont lie to you. I didn’t realise you were wanting us to be esxclusive.. when we first started talking about hooking up you said.. theres no reason for anyone to get jealous we are in the lifestyle and will continue to play with other couples.. Well alex and I don’t play with couples just other women. So I don’t understand how either of us canbe exclusive to the other.. I had a blast with you the other night and look forward to many many many more! but we have to talk so w know where the other stands. Im sorry i upset you.. but not wanting to talk to me at all about it wont get you the response i think you want. Have fun tonight and well talk later somtime… xoxoxo
August 17, 2010 Mandie hey Didn’t feel like having a text battle so thought I would message you on here..I apologised at least twice for not hearing you say you didn’t want to go home but you didnt seem to care or hang out which is fine I wont make you. but I don’t understand things with you there incredibly hot and cold. I like hanging out with you and we have a good time.. but I don’t have time for complicated I don’t have time for on again off again.. you let me get close then back away. Its way to confusing.. I want an exclusive relationship.. were we actualy talk not just get annoyed and thats it..
August 17, 2010 Amber Well I was very clear with you and you weren’t paying attention to me, so I just accepted the night was done and let you take me home instead of objecting. You were on the phone with everyone and their brother telling them you were on your way home, after I told you I didn’t want you to take me home. To me that meant you’d made up your mind. Even though I wasn’t super hungry, I told you we could go wherever you wanted and you chose to drop me off at my house. The rest is on you. If you don’t like the way the night turned out, you have only yourself to blame. I was perfectly clear with you and you weren’t paying attention. I was upset that you weren’t paying attention to me, or the road, but I’m over it. You apologized, I accept it. Just because I said another time, doesn’t mean you have to get all bent out of shape about it not being tonight. You say it to me all the time, so I figured it was the best thing for me to say to you.
August 17, 2010 Mandie Pay attention to you.. amber EVERYTIME we do something you are on your phone. After that incredibly shitty message I think you summed up everything. This wont work at all! You turn nasty to me over the smallest things.. things were fine until we slept together now they just seem petty and weird. NOT what I wanted! I want a girlfriend not someoen whos going to be nice one minute and shitty the next! I have never met anyone like this
August 17, 2010 Amber Who was the one on their phone the ENTIRE FREAKING MOVIE? MINE WAS IN MY PURSE YOURS WAS IN YOUR HAND YOU COULDN’T EVEN LET IT GO! EVERY TIME I’M WITH YOU ALL YOU DO IS TALK ON YOUR PHONE AND TEXT!!!! OMFG!!!!
August 17, 2010 Mandie yes I did have my phone im a big girl thats allowed! SO no reason to get pist! if thats all I do then theres no need for you to want to be around me it seems.
August 17, 2010 Amber Well you accuse me of “everytime we do something yhou are on your phone” and that’s a LOAD OF CRAP. It’s YOU, not me, who is always on her phone. YOU are the one who freaks out every time you don’t get your way.
August 17, 2010 Mandie lol.. I am not going to act like a 15 year old and sit and argue. It was fun
August 17, 2010 Amber Glad it was fun for you, it was a pain in my ass.
August 17, 2010 Mandie WOW sorry you feel that way. I never regret meeting or knowing anyone
August 17, 2010 Amber Ok, are you done yet?
August 17, 2010 Mandie seriously? is this the way you are going to act.. over 1 night of not hanging out? when your done with whatever is going on with you give me a call
August 17, 2010 Amber How am I acting? You’re the one going all psycho over 3 hours of not hanging out. YOU are the one who ignored me the entire drive back to my house. I said it was fine and you couldn’t drop it. WHY? Because you wanted to come over here and have me lick your kitty? Well, sorry, not in the mood after the way you’ve been acting.
August 17, 2010 Mandie hahah this is amusing.. acting likea psycho? I am litteraly as calm as I could ever be obviously you aren’t… I am sitting here reading all of this with alex.. tonight it was a misunderstanding and I choked it up and realised there are other nights.. I could careless if we fucked or not! you can’t hold that over me I have MANY offers so I wouldn’t just come to you if thats all I wanted! I actualy enjoyed hanging out with you many times before we ever even touched eachother.
August 17, 2010 Amber I enjoyed hanging out with you too until you started freaking out every time you didn’t get your way. I’m perfectly calm right now reading this with Dave, I’m just waiting for this particular conversation to be over, and you won’t just let it go.
August 17, 2010 Mandie no worries im done
August 18, 2010 Mandie I guess we were done talking?
September 4, 2010 Mandie why would I just get a mesage saying I can’t trust you and dave because you are playing the fence with heather and her husband over the legal issue between us?
September 4, 2010 Amber What? That makes no sense…
November 27, 2010 Mandie are you blowing me off because of this party thing?
November 27, 2010 Amber Huh? No…
November 27, 2010 Mandie just wondering. I sent you two text today and never heard back
November 27, 2010 Amber Never got ’em
November 27, 2010 Mandie odd asked ya this morning if you wanted to grab some lunch.. then said or go out for a drink tonight.. no biggy
November 27, 2010 Amber Oh… Well, you’re welcome to join me for a drink at Parker’s
November 28, 2010 Mandie huh? I think this message was delayed
December 26, 2010 Amber 4538 11th Ave B, Moline, IL 61265
December 27, 2010 Amber Lol he was just down there to cuddle
January 13, 2011 Mandie i wanna lick your kitty
January 13, 2011 Amber Come and do it!
January 13, 2011 Mandie this weekend! Plan on taking me home with you
January 13, 2011 Amber no puking! Haha
January 13, 2011 Mandie im only having a few drinks! And nothing funky again you can invite people to if you want! I want to have a good time!
January 16, 2011 Mandie does it bother you that we aren’t having sex?
January 16, 2011 Amber No… I mean, I def want to, just being respectful and waiting till ur ready
January 16, 2011 Mandie ok i was just wondering
January 31, 2011 Mandie ok whats the deal? you stopped responding to anything. You said you would dog sit then don’t respond.
January 31, 2011 Amber I’ve responded to everything i’ve received
January 31, 2011 Mandie odd! everyone seems to get my text but you. I wanted all afternoon for a response to bring cheach over
January 31, 2011 Amber well, you could have called me, or fb msgd me earlier
January 31, 2011 Mandie i haven’t been at my computer. and I called once around 1:00
January 31, 2011 Amber i was at work at 1, i wouldn’t have gotten the call
January 31, 2011 Mandie well i assumed you would see it and call or text me back
January 31, 2011 Amber no missed calls, or i would have
January 31, 2011 Mandie aw well! thanks!
January 31, 2011 Amber well i’m home if you’re bringing him over today
January 31, 2011 Mandie not needed maybe when your back to wanting to talk again you can get ahold of me
January 31, 2011 Amber Who said I didn’t want to talk to you?
January 31, 2011 Mandie it has seemed that way for a few weeks now
January 31, 2011 Amber Ok I don’t know why
January 31, 2011 Mandie you go a week of talking then distant for a week..
January 31, 2011 Amber well you haven’t been talking to me either
January 31, 2011 Mandie thats just it i have! You claim to never get my text. either you are and dont want to talk or you really aren’t.
January 31, 2011 Amber i’m really not getting any txts from you… Other than ones asking for me to return the money I owe with money I can’t afford to return yet
January 31, 2011 Mandie well i was shocked by your response when I asked for it back. I seen on your check in you guys were going out to eat so i assumed you had the money to at least pay back a little bit. When i asked you responded with ill pay you back whenever i have it…. i would of appreciated.. ya know mandie i dont have it right now sorry but as soon as i do ill let you know and get it back to you.
January 31, 2011 Amber Well, I had told you a while back that I can’t afford it right now and won’t be able to until the end of may, and just because Dave and/or I go somewhere doesn’t mean we are spending money we don’t have. Which I already explained once before. And you refused to talk about your feelings back then, even when I txted all that to you that we weren’t spending money. Instead you only txt me to give me deadlines of giving it back to you. And all this only weeks after you told me not to worry about it at all.
January 31, 2011 Mandie you never said a thing about may. at first when i paid for it you were paying me back the following week. then it turned into you don’t have it. To me if you barrow or let someone pay for something for you make an effort to pay it back or say hey this is when i can or something not just blowing off the subject, thats taking advantage in my eyes by not saying anything at all. Then not talking to me after i asked for it. You want me to discuss my feelings with you more well thats how i feel
January 31, 2011 Amber Ok well the week after I got all my overtime taken away which puts us $600 in the hole until at least the end of May, which I told you about when we were waiting to go in for the cake tasting, to which you responded not to worry it at all, to which I expressed my apprecation. Where in there could I be taking advantage of you? You told me not to worry about it, then randomly start demanding it, not just saying “hey do you have the money to pay me back?” but giving me deadlines to return it, when you had already told me not to worry about it weeks prior. It’s fine if you changed your mind and decided you want me to pay you back, whatever, and I set aside money my parents gave us for bills to pay you back, and I told you on Friday that I had it and you could come get it, and hadn’t heard from you since.
January 31, 2011 Amber And yeah, I want you to always tell me how you feel, and me always feel like I can do the same, it doesn’t have to result in an argument (I’m not angry at all right now) but a discussion to work things out rather than avoiding the problems
January 31, 2011 Mandie just keep the money not worth the aggrivation. the money means nothing to me its the principal
January 31, 2011 Amber no, I don’t want to feel like i owe you, so I’m giving you the money. But to be honest, since those were the only msgs I was receiving from you, I was starting to feel like the money was going to come between our friendship, which is why I want to ensure I give it back to you now, because there’s no reason for money to come between us.
January 31, 2011 Amber You haven’t been talking to me either
January 31, 2011 Mandie ive text thats all i can do.. i spent a week trying to see you and got a no everytime. not much more i can do
February 1, 2011 Amber well i’m sorry if I can’t always drop what i’m doing to see you, I have reaponsibilities around here… And I wasn’t getting any txts other than asking for the money back
February 1, 2011 Mandie not a big deal at this point. I’m over it
February 1, 2011 Amber Me too *smooch* K
February 1, 2011 Mandie k what?
February 1, 2011 Amber The k was sent in error, pressed that k accidentally
February 1, 2011 Mandie hey ladies I am working on getting a deal for the 9th please let me know what services you plan on having. Massages and waxing. If you need the current price list let me know asap
February 1, 2011 Amber i’ll just be getting my nails done, if that
February 1, 2011 Mandie ok, are you meeting for lunch before nails?
February 1, 2011 Amber Yah
February 1, 2011 Mandie ok well let me know if you are going to come along for the day or just meet for lunch
February 2, 2011 Mandie 3006 38th ave. rock island. If you want to come back and get him later this evening that would be great. If I can get out I would bring him but our drive way isn’t getting very far is that fine?
February 2, 2011 Amber Yep
February 2, 2011 Amber abt what time?
February 2, 2011 Mandie im thinking about going to target in an hour.. want to meet me then follow me to my house and get him. Im about a half a mile from target
February 2, 2011 Amber well that’s about when our dinner will be ready, I was thinking a little sooner
February 2, 2011 Mandie well i wont be dressed within the hour. no biggy nevermind
February 2, 2011 Amber nevermind what?
February 2, 2011 Mandie meeting there
February 2, 2011 Amber ok so is it ok if I come and get him now then? Or would you rather drop him off when ur done? ?
February 2, 2011 Mandie im getting ready to leave now. so it will clearly be to late by the time i get back
February 2, 2011 Amber huh? What makes you think it’ll be too late?
February 2, 2011 Mandie because everything is to late for you after you eat dinner
February 2, 2011 Amber you said you wouldn’t be ready to leave within the hour, I can be @ ur house within like 20 min, otherwise u can drop him off after ur done @ target lol ur funny ok so what’s the plan?
February 2, 2011 Mandie I am already out and not sure what time i will be back home
February 2, 2011 Amber ok… Well just let me know
February 2, 2011 Mandie just get ahold of me tomorrow
February 3, 2011 Mandie To all of my friends I am in need of a few things and hopefully someone can help. I need a dog sitter a few days are coming up that I would need you for. Also in need of a house sitter, someone to either stay at my house or someone to just come and check on things a few times while we are on trips. Lastly I am hiring for a house keeper, so if you or you know someone who may be interested let me know.
ALL things you will be paid for of course. Please let me know asap Thank you
February 4, 2011 Mandie Just got a good deal. might change your mind. $30 for a 30 minute massage, facial, and waxing.
February 4, 2011 Amber omg yeah i’m in on that
February 4, 2011 Mandie figured you would be god damn it!
February 4, 2011 Amber LMAO
February 18, 2011 Mandie if you are going to bitch about one of my post dont do it on my business page!! last i checked it is a free country and i am able to post what i please!! Again you freak out without saying a word to me first! We are looking for a perminant dog sitter (you said so yourself dave got annoyed with him being there this time) We are leaving for our honey moon next month and now we are going to vegas once a month. I posted asking if anyone knew of anyone as a plan B if that was to much sitting for you! Again way to ask! I think this was the icing on the cake for me after hearing from somoene i call my bestfriend to congratulate us on our wedding or anything while we were gone.
February 18, 2011 Amber I never said Dave got annoyed with him being here this time, and I don’t know what you’re talking about not being congratulated I sent you a txt and figured I didn’t hear from you because you were busy.
February 18, 2011 Mandie you told me dave was annoyed with him. Funny I got every text from you when i asked how our dog was but never once about us getting married.
February 18, 2011 Amber I never said Dave was annoyed with him. And it’s not my fault you didn’t get the txt I sent. And it’s funny how you were too sick to come pick him up at 4:30 when you said you would but well enough to go grocery shopping and cook dinner.
February 18, 2011 Mandie i was alseep at 4:30 THANK YOU! and Went to the store to get soup and pick up cold medicine. Good thing I have to explain myself to you. your clearing back to your normal self over reacting and jumping to your own conclusions about EVERYTHING so I think we are doing talking. I couldn’t be happier right now and don’t plan to let anything bring that down.
February 18, 2011 Amber This is not a “normal self.” This is a perfectly NORMAL reaction anyone would have to what you’ve done. You’re the one who’s causing the issue, and of course you’re wanting to run away from a problem instead of dealing with it. You could have txted me at any time today saying you were sick and wouldn’t make it at 4:30, instead you fail to provide common courtesy and leave me and Dave sitting around for 2 hours waiting on you when we were supposed to go out for a belated anniversary dinner with friends, that had to be delayed because we were waiting on you. And you could have given me a heads up that you were searching for a plan B, and maybe then realized through a simple conversation that you wouldn’t need it because Dave loves Cheech as though he were our own, unless you post that you need a new dog sitter. Why don’t you try talking instead of pulling childish stunts like this? “Hey I’m sick I’m not going to be able to be there at 4:30.” “Hey if Dave’s annoyed by Cheech we can always find someone else to watch him.” And maybe then gotten responses like “Hey that’s cool if you want I can drop him off after work” or to the latter “Hey no Dave’s not annoyed by him, it’s our pleasure to watch him.” But no, you can’t do something that simple to avoid situations like this, instead you cause them and then refuse to work them out.
February 18, 2011 Mandie think what you want you couldn’t be more wrong I wont ask you to watch my dog again then it wont turn into some horrible inconvenience for you both and cause you to delay plans and just mess up your whole night since it seems thats what happen
February 18, 2011 Amber Wrong? I’m wrong to assume that a person would have enough decency and respect for their “friends” to provide something so simple as that common courtesy? That’s pretty sad. Just be sure to get my money to me by Sunday and then you don’t have to hear from me again.
February 18, 2011 Mandie your being OVERLY dramatic yet again. reason 1 we stop talking ALL the time.. your impossible to stay friends with everything gets blown to the extreame with you
February 18, 2011 Amber I’m not being overly dramatic. I was disrespected and am left unappreciated for what I’ve done as a favor for you. You’ve infuriated me and my husband with your actions. I am perfectly justified and far from dramatic. Yeah go ahead and delete me from facebook. This time don’t expect to get added back. And don’t forget to bring me my money on Sunday.
February 18, 2011 Mandie well if you guys are so pist off at me for for falling asleep because i am sick and not waking up in time to be there right at 4:30 and texting you the minute i woke up.. then well you should probably stop talking to me. You weren’t disrepected or unappreciated. I wronte $110 check out to you for the $50 from the spa and $50 for watching him and $10 for his food thats being HORRIBLY unappreciated!
February 18, 2011 Mandie your being a bitch amber. point blank! this turned into a HUGE issue that wasn’t needed for no reason at all.
February 18, 2011 Amber We don’t ask for money for watching him, we love him like our own and do it just to be nice. As for the rest of this argument, I’ve said my part and I’m done with it. The argument, that is. The rest of it was your decision, to run away yet again instead of just dealing with it and moving forward. What, can you not handle it when someone expresses how they feel, when it’s anger? The argument is done, I’m over it. But, alas, you deleted me yet again. If you wrote the check as you say you did, have it here by Sunday. And you won’t have to deal with me again. I see how much you meant what you said, that we have our ups and downs but you wouldn’t trade me for the world. I’m really feeling that right now. Thanks.
February 18, 2011 Amber Who says this is a huge issue? I expressed my feelings, and it’s done. It’s not a huge issue in my book. But, for crying out loud, what’s so wrong with expressing my feelings, letting them be known, so that if there is a problem it can be fixed?
February 18, 2011 Mandie i said we are done talking becuase i wont sit here and fight with you.. you are making it perminant with your words I just meant for right now as in tonight! your the one saying i never have to hear from you again so who is the one walking away?
February 18, 2011 Amber There was a time you told me you wanted me to be honest about my feelings. Well, I just was. And yeah, it was anger. I got it out of my system, expressed everything I felt, and that’s the end of it. You’re the one who deleted me, AGAIN
February 18, 2011 Mandie a problem cant be fixed because you go on a rampage instead of talking like an adult. I put effort into people who care and don’t get pist at every little thing
February 18, 2011 Amber I don’t get pissed at every little thing. But I should be able to express my anger and frustration when need be. If you want to call it a “rampage” so be it. I feel like I can’t express myself to you because you take things the wrong way and that just leads me to making “bitchier” attempts at getting my point across.
February 18, 2011 Amber We have had plenty of great times together. It would be a shame to throw it out the window over a misunderstanding. Yeah, I’m pretty upset about seeing that post on your page about a new dog sitter. But I’m willing to take your word that you were looking for plan b due to thinking Dave was annoyed by Cheech. He’s not, and we are always more than happy to watch him. We don’t always get along very well, we know that, it’s been like that all along. If you meant what you said that you wouldn’t trade me for the world despite, then you won’t let this come between us, as nothing else has permanently. I apologize for posting my initial response on your business page, that was pretty rude and disrespectful. I’m going to bed, and leaving the decision in your hands, if you’re done with talking to me just for the night, or permanently. The ball’s in your court.
February 18, 2011 Amber also, depending on ur decision of course, my req for movie or whatnot on sunday still stands
February 22, 2011 Mandie reason you are now not answering my text>
February 23, 2011 Amber What txt?
February 23, 2011 Mandie nevermind
February 23, 2011 Amber umm ok
February 23, 2011 Amber Is there any way I can drop by and get the money? If I don’t get it to my bank (atm deposit) by midnight our account is going to be overdrawn with no funds to back it up.
February 24, 2011 Amber Can I please come pick up the $ this evening?
February 24, 2011 Mandie not home i text u an hour ago that i wasnt far from your house
February 24, 2011 Amber well i didn’t get anything… so can you drop it off please? it’s kinda urgent desperation at this point.
February 24, 2011 Mandie im busy right now. You can come get it when im home though. U should cal ur phone company i find it how often you dont get my text
February 24, 2011 Amber ok let me know when ur home
I have no reason to contact my phone company since you’re the only one who claims I don’t receive txts, I know it’s not a problem with my phone or phone company
February 24, 2011 Mandie ok well stop being so shitty to me it would be GREATLY appreciated! It is not my fault our schedules haven’t met as you always say. and I have been sick.
February 24, 2011 Amber i’m not being shitty unlike some people
February 24, 2011 Mandie what is that supose to mean unlike some people?
February 24, 2011 Amber well i’m not too crazy about the way you’re talking to me right now
February 24, 2011 Mandie by asking you to stop being so nasty to mean is talking to you in a bad way.. ttrust me amber it takes everything I have to bit my tounge you have been nasty to me on a regular basis since the day I met you.
February 24, 2011 Amber ok whatever if you could just please let me know when ur home
February 24, 2011 Mandie thats your problem.. something is braught to your attention and you respond with whatever. You wonder why I walk away so easily
February 24, 2011 Amber if you could please just let me know when ur home
February 24, 2011 Mandie YA!
February 24, 2011 Amber yeah? you’re home?
February 24, 2011 Mandie no you asked if i would let you know I am saying YA!
February 24, 2011 Amber oh, ok thx
February 27, 2011 Mandie so whats up with the deleting me AGAIN?
February 27, 2011 Amber Umm, I didn’t delete you
February 27, 2011 Mandie odd. just went to send a message to a bunch of people and you weren’t on my friends at all
February 27, 2011 Amber Well, I didn’t delete you
February 27, 2011 Mandie odd.. aw well
February 27, 2011 Amber So what r u doing today?
February 27, 2011 Mandie doing a million things until this evening
February 27, 2011 Mandie Hey ladies!
Anyone up for dinner at Olive Garden tonight? I know it short notice but since Hubby just got some new toys he will be occupied tonight so I am thinking perfect time to see the girls!
February 27, 2011 Amber Sorry, not going to be able to make it
February 27, 2011 Mandie didn’t realize it sent that to you.. no big deal
February 27, 2011 Amber Oh guess I wasn’t really invited then
February 28, 2011 Mandie Anyone up for going to Ikea this week? Have lunch do some shopping! Let me know ladies.
February 28, 2011 Amber Sorry, I work every day this week
March 24, 2011 Mandie why the friend request again?
March 24, 2011 Amber idk I guess w/ the invite to the cookout and formal reception, I thought u still wanted to be friends, if i’m wrong pls correct me
March 24, 2011 Mandie I tryed many times… you go on about a months span of not wanting to talk at all. And to me thats just not how friends act
March 24, 2011 Amber you didn’t try talking to me either
March 24, 2011 Mandie yes I have a few times.. I have sent 2 text within just the last few days.
March 24, 2011 Amber well, yeah, one was a question abt me sending the req, and the other a mass msg invite to a party, but yes you did
March 24, 2011 Mandie wel that is my attempt to talk I guess. But it’s ok no lose to you so it’s cool.
March 24, 2011 Amber no lose to me?
March 24, 2011 Mandie not having me as a friend
March 24, 2011 Amber if that were the case, why’d I send the fr req?
March 24, 2011 Mandie No clue! That’s why I asked
March 24, 2011 Amber well, it’s what I wanted to do
March 24, 2011 Mandie ok and I just don’t understand the point. I just want good real and honest friends.. It gets frustrating when you talk to me every other week (if you aren’t mad about something) hang out once a month. It just doesn’t seem like a friendship.
March 24, 2011 Amber I talked to you almost every day and hung out as often as I could… My husband is first and job has to come second so I can enjoy the rest and I hope you can understand that I can’t always drop what i’m doing to go out
March 24, 2011 Mandie Just let it go, it’s a never ending conversation. you don’t understant where I am coming from so it’s cool.
March 24, 2011 Amber well, to be honest, I feel like you get overly upset if I can’t hang out a few times a week, and that you accuse me of not wanting to see you when I simply have other obligations, and if u want a real and honest good friend i’m right here but I need to be able to be honest without you saying i’m being argumentative and running away from the problems instead of working things out
March 24, 2011 Mandie Our personalities are incredibly different. I take your sense of humor to be rude and that tends to make you mad. Or if I am honest and tell you something is bothering me it ends up being a texting battle that I just don’t have time for. No, I don’t get mad when you can’t hang out. I have a child, husband, now in school, and a business. My time is even more tight then yours. But when I try for a few weeks to hang out and it seems to be a no everytime I get tired of making an attempt.
March 24, 2011 Amber my sense of humor is rude? Then why do you always laugh instead of telling me the truth? Look, if you don’t want to be friends, just say so, since you feel we’re so different and apparently i’m rude and argumentative anyway, I don’t want to argue I was just making an attempt to get things back to normal
March 24, 2011 Mandie thats my point.. I am trying to be honest and you get deffensive. Nowhere did I call you rude I said your sense of humor can be rude. I feel lik everything that comes out of my mouth gets blown out of context. I just like genuine friends, who are still my friend even when there mad. If you haven’t heard from me in a month wouldn’t you think to call or something and say hi haven’t heard from you how are you?
My dad has been flown to california to the mayo clinic going through kidney failure, I am having a hystorectomy in 2 months. My point to that is.. if we were friends you would know all of this. Even mad at you and not even really caring to talk to you when you were sick I offered to be there in any way.
March 24, 2011 Amber I wasn’t getting defensive, I’m just trying to avoid an argument. I want to know, honestly, if you want to be friends. You could have told me that despite that you weren’t otherwise talking to me at all
March 24, 2011 Mandie I just don’t feel the need to make a daily effort it’s exhausting after a while. I have no problem with you I don’t dislike you. Our views of “friendship” just seem to be different
March 24, 2011 Amber Well, when I get deleted from someone’s facebook I just assume they don’t want to be friends anymore and what’s the point in trying to talk to someone that doesn’t want to be talked to?
March 24, 2011 Mandie I didn’t delete you, I even asked you why you were off my friends yet again. If I didn’t want to talk to you I would of messaged you and told you to leave me alone I have no problem being honest
March 24, 2011 Amber you deleted me on feb 18th, which I mentioned during that conversation on feb 18th and you didn’t say anything to the contrary, the only msg abt me deleting u was the one I got after deleting ur biz page
March 24, 2011 Mandie No clue! I don’t write on a calender when I notice someone isn’t on my friends.. facebook is the LAST of my concerns in life. It’s really not a big deal.
March 24, 2011 Amber I didn’t write it on a calendar, it just happens to still be in my message list
March 24, 2011 Mandie ok, we aren’t on eachothers friends.. thats clear!
March 24, 2011 Amber umm ok ahh I see, u deleted me again just now… Ok, I guess I have my answer… You could have just said so
March 24, 2011 Mandie What are you talking about? you were never back on here for me to delete
March 24, 2011 Amber lol you accepted the request yesterday
March 24, 2011 Mandie I deleted the request. when you didn’t respond when I asked why you tryed to add me again
March 24, 2011 Amber No, you accepted it, I got an email.
March 24, 2011 Mandie WELL I wasn’t aware I did! Facebook is clearly far more serious to you then it is to me.
March 24, 2011 Amber LOL not hardly I just don’t go for people lying to me
March 24, 2011 Mandie lying? Amber is it REALLY that serious? I assumed I deleted the friend request. I did it from my phone.
March 24, 2011 Amber No, facebook is really not that serious, I only use it for the games. I just feel like you aren’t willing admit when you cause problems between us.
March 24, 2011 Mandie I don’t think my thinking I deleted a request instead of excepting it is causing a problem. Life is WAY to short for me to sweat small stuff like that.
March 24, 2011 Amber It’s not causing a problem, merely serving as an example to an ongoing situation. You did accept the request, and yet alas you’re not on the friends list, which means you deleted me, yet again, and you can’t admit it.
March 24, 2011 Mandie Ok I am ending this conversation.. there are far more important things. If I expected your friend request it was not ment to happen.
March 24, 2011 Amber Right, and you could have said at the beginning of this conversation that you did not want to be friends again instead of wasting my time
March 24, 2011 Mandie Being friends and being on my facebook are two completely different things! I have a tun of friends thats aren’t on my facebook. It’s facebook amber not life! I got tired of you being on here a long time ago because your status comments were always sarcastic or always assuming it was about you and it causing an argument that wasn’t needed. so by not being on here it stopped that problem.
March 24, 2011 Amber LOL I’m not talking about facebook for god’s sake! I’m taking about you not being any different than always. I could give a rat’s ass about facebook
March 24, 2011 Mandie me not being any different then always? then why talk to me? think about that one. Have a good night
March 24, 2011 Amber I was hoping maybe you’d finally grown up since getting married, but clearly I was wrong. I’m sick of all the drama that you bring to my life. Keep the money you borrowed from me, it’s not even worth the effort of trying to get it back, not that you need it since your life is handed to you on a silver platter unlike myself who has to bust ass for every penny. “Oh I don’t have time” sorry that giving me my money back takes so much away from your busy shopping schedule. Have a good one.
March 24, 2011 Mandie My point EXACTLY! thank you.. have a good one
March 24, 2011 Amber What, can’t take the honesty? You asked for it, remember. Bye!
March 24, 2011 Mandie Im just not stooping to the level to fight with you and start back and forth name calling. It’s immature and pointless.
March 24, 2011 Amber I had a really long honest message typed out and decided not to send it. Instead I’ll just say goodbye.
March 24, 2011 Mandie ok Goodbye. Good luck with everything in life
March 24, 2011 Amber You know what, I can’t NOT send this because it’s the truth and you said it’s what you wanted. That one time I called you psychotic? It’s because you had told me that you frequently wake up in the hospital after beating the shit out of women and that they’re always in worse shape than you. And you should be thankful the domestic violence place never called me when you used me as a reference because I really don’t think people like you should legally be allowed to work with people who’ve been abused. And I’ve never had so much drama in my life until I met you. Not even in grammar school. You bring so much drama it’s pathetic. And the ONLY reason I tried to be your friend yet again is because every time I’m around you in person I have this stupid aching in my heart that yearns to be with you and it won’t go away until you start acting like your usual childish self and stop talking to me. I hoped that when you got married you’d have finally grown up but that’s clearly not the case. So this is good, for me. My heart can finally stop doing the damned yo-yos of love/hate because it’s dizzying. And I am not sending this to be a bitch, though I know a lot of it is heinous. I’m sending it to be honest, because I’ve felt it for a very long, long time and needed to get it out of my system. You need to know how you really are. Maybe one day you’ll accept it and finally grow up. I wish you the best with life, thank you for the good times. Goodbye.
March 24, 2011 Mandie Amber look back at the messages between the two of us.. not one negetive word about tword you has come from me other then telling you your sense of humor comes off rude. I don’t feel the need to talk negetivly tword you because it just isn’t worth the argument to me. If you feel that way about me thats to bad and really sad because you couldn’t possibly be more wrong. You got it out of your system and I hope you feel better now.
March 24, 2011 Amber I do feel better, and if i’m wrong I apologize for the hurtful words, though I haven’t had a lot of evidence to the contrary. In person your presence takes my breath away, in txt or online you’re intolerable.
March 24, 2011 Mandie Ok, then you have no reason to want to talk to me. It’s fine no hard feelings
March 24, 2011 Amber That’s just my dilemma. I can’t get you out of my mind, I don’t want you to not be in my life, yet I can’t figure out the solution
March 24, 2011 Mandie well judging by your above messages I think it’s clear “this” whatever “this” is, is not going to go anywhere.
March 24, 2011 Amber Yes, and I already know that, I can’t expect to be honest about all that and you still have any desire to speak to me. In time, i’ll get over it.
March 24, 2011 Mandie Ok
March 24, 2011 Amber I’ll miss you… If you ever want to talk again i’m here
March 24, 2011 Mandie I think all that you wanted to say was said.
March 24, 2011 Amber Maybe
March 24, 2011 Mandie You don’t say the things you just said then leave the door open for further talking. It makes no since. You voiced your opinion on how horrible of a person I am. So there is no need to talk to me if you feel that way.
March 24, 2011 Amber yeah but i’m conflicted in that I don’t want you out of my life, and all the things i’ve held inside, now out, don’t change anything, I feel better not keeping it bottled up, but worse for letting it out… Better for being honest, worse for likely ruining something I didn’t want ruined… So yeah it’s out, but it doesn’t fix things, only makes it worse… The frustration i’d kept inside is gone, now the aching of having said it all remains
March 24, 2011 Mandie Well I don’t know what to say. I don’t see myself being able to call you a friend after all of your assumptions on my life and the type of person I am. you are intitled to how you feel, it’s out all there now so nothing can change that. It’s no big deal, you said so yourself you will get over it, I seemed to have made your life hell knowing me so theres no point in dragging it out.
March 24, 2011 Amber you haven’t made my life hell… It will just be hell now knowing that letting out the frustration leaves only pain for both of us… Yeah in time i’ll get over it, I just wish there was a way a person can get things like this out of their system without ruining a relationship they want so much it hurts
March 24, 2011 Mandie I don’t know.. It is what it is.
May 1, 2011 Mandie Not adding you on my personal page
May 17, 2011 Amber Hey I’m not sure it would be a good idea, with Josie off her blood pressure pills, for us to watch two dogs… I wanted to tell you soon enough so you’d have time to find someone else that could do it. I was looking forward to watching Cheech, I just don’t want to stress out Josie that bad.
May 17, 2011 Mandie not a big deal we already found someone else today.
May 17, 2011 Amber Ok that’s good that you did find someone
May 18, 2011 Mandie yep!
June 5, 2011 Mandie why would you send me an invite to see a movie
June 5, 2011 Amber Why not?
June 5, 2011 Mandie I don’t know… cool I guess hope ya had a BLAST
June 5, 2011 Amber Didn’t go
June 5, 2011 Mandie cool
June 22, 2011 Mandie I am not going to text all of this out so figured a facebook message would be better. I don’t at all mind you barrowing my car but I told you I needed it when we got home or thursday morning. You have to work thats fine but shooting me a text letting me know that would be nice.and just double checking that I didn’t need it. Don’t mean to sound like a witch but I have to go to davenport tomorrow so I just asked if you could go so you could take me in case you needed my car again. Please just bring it as soon as you get off work tomorrow.
June 22, 2011 Amber Just getting this now… and I didn’t want to txt all of what I wanted to say so here we go… I’m trying not to be angry because that’s not going to fix anything… but allow me to express my feelings as far as my point of view goes. When I was asked to work OT tomorrow you were already on vacation, I completely forgot that you weren’t aware of that, so that’s my bad. And I forgot when thursday you said you needed it, also my bad. Tomorrow we’re having to do all the paperwork for my new car, and it’s going to involve me running back and forth between moline and davenport. It was not a problem at all to make sure you had your van by the morning, it was more so of how and when I could actually accomplish that with everything going on. The only way it was possible was to drop it off tonight so Dave could bring me home. Since my car is being traded in tomorrow anyway, he’s taking that to work and I’m using his truck. So in that regard, all’s well that ends well. When u were txting me about having it dropped off tomorrow, I was confused, you were being a little vague as far as when, etc. No biggie, just had to figure it out how to get ur van back to you. As far as why I posted “Po’d” as my status… I will try to word this in the best way… I wasn’t sure if you were home or not, so I peeked in the door and saw movement, lightly tapped, and – this is just my point of view, I don’t know the circumstances – it was like you just opened the door, grabbed the key, muttered thanks, and slammed it in my face. Like I said, that was just my point of view, and I realize I could be sorely mistaken. I felt like I really wanted to say more at the time to express my gratitude and appreciation for allowing me to borrow your car, and it felt like I wasn’t given the chance. Now, you also looked exhausted, so I’m thinking that was the case and you were just ready to go to bed… I don’t feel this situation calls for a break in talking, more so a clarification. I realize my point of view can be mistaken, so if you want to clear it up that’d be great, or we can just leave this in the past now. As far as my status, I guess I was just responding to your “annoyed” status and assumed, correctly or incorrectly, that it was about me. Not that me posting my status solved anything, but perhaps led to me getting my feelings out before they become a problem. There’s no reason for me to be angry, I don’t even know if my point of view was even remotely what was really going on. I’m not going to let this impact our friendship, you mean more to me than something that can be easily worked out. I let it get to me for that time, and now I’m just ready to have my feelings expressed, any clarification that may come would be fine, and then go along our merry way as bffs.
June 22, 2011 Mandie My being annoyed is that I have a fractured knee I couldn’t stand at the door let alone get up and answer it that is why I asked you to bring it tomorrow or put the key in the mailbox on top of that I am BEYOND exhausted! I have been sitting here with a heating pad on for the last half hour. I felt you didn’t appreciate barrowing my car at all and that annoyed me but not enough to have enough energy to car. I am going to the hospital first thing in the morning so getting my car back in somewhat of a timely mannor was important to me. Again it doesn’t at all matter at this point… but as I have said a billion times. Be an adult if you want to say something or ask something just say so does use facebook to speak for you.
June 22, 2011 Amber I didn’t see about your knee until after we were exchanging comments on my status, so now I do feel like a major ass. If I had known, I would have just left it in the mailbox. I’m not sure why you didn’t feel appreciated as I did express it many times. It was childish of me to post that as my status, simply being unaware of the circumastances. I am so sorry, clearly I am the ass here. Let me know if you need anything at all tomorrow evening (after 5 I think I should be available) or this weekend… if Alex is busy I am more than happy to help out. I know first hand how it is to be immobilized and it’s always nice to have an extra hand at those times.
June 23, 2011 Mandie yes you an are an ass. Have a good one. I will be just fine no need to try and pencil me in
June 23, 2011 Amber Was that really necessary?
June 23, 2011 Mandie was what necessary agreeing that you are an ass? or saying I will be fine no need for your help?
June 23, 2011 Amber I just don’t appreciate the attitude when I’m trying to be a friend.
June 23, 2011 Mandie and you can tell there is attitude by reading words? I don’t think that is possible
June 23, 2011 Amber Nevermind.
June 23, 2011 Mandie ahhh way to discuss things….
June 23, 2011 Amber There’s nothing to discuss
June 23, 2011 Mandie if you say so.. clearly you are stil pissy about something
June 23, 2011 Amber nope your knee doing any better?
June 23, 2011 Mandie yes, a bestfriend of mine came over and help me out today and braught me a knee wrap
June 23, 2011 Amber good to hear
June 23, 2011 Mandie yep
July 13, 2011 Mandie here is my issue last week you were completely shitty to me and you said it was because I was inviting other people to vegas and not you. This is why I didn’t go out of my way to get arangments made for you to go with us. You are so hot and cold it’s unreal, one day your cool and nice the next rude and nasty. Makes no sense to me. We had lunch and you acted cold when I tryed to talk to you about why you were mad. There for again leaving without any arangements made. I text you the other day at 4:00pm you claim you were already in bed. Aw well I got over it.. tonight I text you ask if you are working and you respond with yes til 1 then the gym. I said ok nevermind. You text me back saying you told me you were free nowhere did you. All I was going to do was suggest lunch since I will be in Davenport in the afternoon. You text of whatever are just fuel to the annoyed fire. I have had a HORRIBLE week and it’s been posted all over facebook.. you were on the other day playing games.. NOT once did you say hey need to talk you ok NOTHING! A girl I have been friends with for a couple months went out of her way to call me just to make sure everything was ok. Just like my reception… it’s kind of a pattern I guess. When I think you should care as a friend you don’t and that bugs the hell out of me. I’m not arguing or fighting with you if it turns into that I will delete you and that will be the end of it.. but I’m trying to tell you why I’m so annoyed before it blows up
July 14, 2011 Amber Well it was a miscommunication then when I told you I was going to the gym because it was meant to be an invitation, and I thought it was pretty well implied that I would be free after also but apparently not. my bad. I don’t know how I was being cold when we went out to eat I thought it was all going just fine. Really, half the time, I don’t get what you mean when you say I’m hot and cold, other than when this recent vegas thing came up that resulted in me not txting much for almost 2 weeks. Otherwise, just because I don’t text you or see you every day doesn’t mean i’m being cold.
It was never communicated to me that you were trying to get additional people to go to vegas, and the messaging on yahoo about it seemed to me even more an indication that i was uninvited which upset me because I’m supposedly a best friend who you invited a month before and offered to fly me out there and my only cost would be food and shopping. because i can’t just accept a gift of an expensive plane ticket I did offer to pay you back at some point. i had a car payment come up that i wasn’t expecting to have for months and now i definitely can’t afford the ticket but am more than happy to pay you back when i am able. i asked before going home that night if i was still going and you didn’t answer. i would really like to know since i already have the time off of work now.
any time i bring something up i feel like you can never admit to at least a fraction of responsibility in the miscommunications.
i was in bed by 4pm on sunday and slept through until monday morning when i had to work. don’t believe me? ask dave. he was right there with me. we were exhausted from heat and lack of sleep from when we went camping.
i feel like if i don’t say yes to every single invitation or at least every other invitation that you take it as i’m avoiding you. that is not the case. i like to spend my evenings with my husband but am happy to go to the gym with you or meet up 1 or 2 work nights a week. if i can’t see you every time you ask it’s not because i’m avoiding you.
as to you having a horrible week, this is news to me. if i’m such a best friend why can’t you just text me if you need me? I’m more than willing and able to be there for you if you just let me know. facebook status updates are not a reliable means of communicating to me when you need a friend as i am only on facebook briefly on my days off. i don’t see your statuses until then. i can’t be expected to be there for someone when i am completely clueless that they need me. if you need me, i’m here, just tell me instead of expecting me to always be checking facebook. half the time when i AM on facebook it is only to play games and I don’t always see the wall postings or status updates then either. I have a phone, you can call me, you can text me, and if you want me to be there for you, that’s the way to let me know, not posting a status on facebook that i may or may not ever see. I want to be here for you because I would expect you to also be there for me as a best friend.
If I am such a best friend, why do you keep threatening to delete me and be done with me? That is very hot and cold, and makes me feel like you don’t care about me because my best friends don’t threaten to stop talking to me every time they’re upset. I think of you as one of my best friends but this is yet another instance where i don’t feel it’s reciprocated because if i was you would have told me via txt, im, facebook message like this, or phone call that you needed me to be there for you, instead of getting annoyed with me for not checking my facebook. And when I’m not there for you, due to no fault of my own in a situation like this, you still threaten to delete me and stop talking to me. How is that being a best friend?
And now, how am i supposed to ask you if you’re ok or if you need me or what’s going on, because now you’ve already told me that I’m not a best friend for not seeing facebook and knowing that you needed me and that I’m supposed to check in with you.
And about the reception. that thursday I already told you i felt like a 4th wheel. that friday I was at work and i already apologized profusely for not taking a couple minutes during a break to txt and check in with you, and that was probably because you were with your cousins and i didn’t think you needed a checkin from your 4th wheel. i guess i was wrong, my bad, i’ve already apologized. And then friday night when I got to the reception hall and saw you i tried to go with in the elevator to help out and be there as a best friend but i was shooed off. so i didn’t feel that you really cared or wanted me there, so that’s really why i didn’t go back to the reception after dropping dave off at home, not to mention i was exhausted from working all week. and that’s also why i left you alone the rest of the weekend, i didn’t think you wanted me to bother you or cared if i communicated or not.
July 14, 2011 Mandie here is my point.. you thought! NEVER do you ask.. you always say I thought this or thought that.. if you don’t know ASK! You have NEVER been called a 5th wheel by anyone but yourself. When I ask you if you are busy or want together it’s not for no reason it obviously means I want to see you or need a friend that day.. If I ask if your busy and you say yes.. then I say ok. Why go into a pitty party telling how bad my day is to convince you to hang out with me. That’s stupid!
I do consider you my bestfriend and bet your ass I have been there for you if you ask or not! In my eyes friends shouldn’t have to ask it’s expected to be there for eachother. I don’t expect you to hang out with me on a daily basis I don’t have time even if you wanted to but talking to a “friend” once every couple weeks because they are mad over something you know nothing about.. that’s annoying to me. I invited you to Vegas because I wanted you to go. I wanted to talk to you about it but never got a chance after we had lunch. My consern was you doing exactly what you did the weekend of my reception feeling like a tag along and shut down completely and I would spend the whole trip with you sulking. Alex suggested inviting a group of people because he will be busy with work and still wants me to ejoy myself.
As for yesterdays text.. there was no invite implied at all and didn’t at all sound like you were free after the gym. I don’t care at this point but if I didn’t let out why I am so frustrated then we would just end up in a huge argument again that I don’t need rigtht now.
July 14, 2011 Amber Well, I haven’t gone to the gym and I am free for the remainder of the day.
July 14, 2011 Mandie I am going to the zoo with my friend Katy you are more then welcome to come along I need to go to the mall after and eat
July 14, 2011 Amber when?
July 14, 2011 Mandie in about an hour.. gotta shower and change
July 14, 2011 Amber ok… i can drive…
July 14, 2011 Mandie Ok Im showing is the zoo closer to my house or yours? Text me I’m off here
July 22, 2011 Mandie everything I say to you for some reason turns into you taking it SO personal or in a context that I am not even saying it in. I feel like I can’t even talk to you. At our lunch at Aurthers i left furious because you are the only friend i have that I can’t talk to about anything, a simple conversation turns into you getting so defensive. I left and my husband called me and the first thing I said is… why can’t I sit and have a casual conversation and enjoy lunch with her.
July 22, 2011 Amber I’m sorry you feel that way
July 22, 2011 Mandie Well it’s keeping me from even wanting to talk to you.. and the response I get is sorry you feel that way
July 22, 2011 Amber Well I haven’t done anything to keep you from talking to me
July 22, 2011 Mandie Nevermind. Have a good one
July 22, 2011 Mandie are you coming sunday?
July 22, 2011 Mandie ?
August 7, 2011 Mandie are you still up?
August 11, 2011 Mandie Thank you! Muah
August 12, 2011 Amber Hey hun I’m not sure if u know, idk if u guys left dirty dishes or if joe maybe cooked something, but there is a swarm of flies in ur kitchen… I’m working on airing it out… and ur office got smelly from the pooches too… trying to air that out also… i’m gonna wash the dishes too so hopefully the flies will go away, i have the windows open right now and i’m at the kitchen table with my laptop… and there are also flies down by cleo’s litter box so i’m gonna change that… and cleo went poo by the front door, so i’ll get that cleaned up… and i got grass in ur office and idk where u keep ur broom?
August 12, 2011 Mandie Well it sounds like joe made a mess LOVELY thanks for cleaning it up. As for downstairs dont worry about it we cant keep flys out of that bathroom. Have someone coming to spray this week. Just stay upstairs. Thanks again.
August 12, 2011 Mandie Did you get my mesage?
August 14, 2011 Mandie Did you leave the key?
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